• Removed user
    Aug. 16, 2023, 3:46 p.m.

    I ask because one header on the Home page says "All Forums" but another says "Photography News Rumours"

    Not saying that members themselves should use the one or another; just saying that the site itself should consistently use one kind of English, e.g., "colour" not "color", "formulae" not "formulas", "Fora" not "Forums", etc.

    www.usingenglish.com/speaking-out/fora-forums.html

    Although the USA still tries to rule the world, I believe that there are more English-English speakers than American-English speakers on the planet. Could be wrong of course.

    I've been away from England for almost forty years ... maybe the language has changed, maybe American spelling has crept in - and the hyphen is now officially dead?

  • Members 557 posts
    Aug. 16, 2023, 5:37 p.m.

    The dictionaries I use all give the plural of forum as forums or fora (in that order) for both British and American English.

    Using the latin plurals for words has become a minority sport in Britain as in most of the English-speaking world. I think a significant number of people in Britain would not know the meaning of fora.

  • Removed user
    Aug. 16, 2023, 6:03 p.m.

    Based on images of the population these days, I think so too. tsk, bad Ted. 😏

    I guessed that "fora" would be a stumbling block.

    So, it looks like the site uses English-English (pardon my use of a hyphen - I was a pupil of King Alfred's Grammar School in the 50's).

  • Members 643 posts
    Aug. 16, 2023, 6:18 p.m.

    Not really a direct reply, but outside of Latin studies, I've never heard "fora" in English. (I'm British).
    I personally enjoy Latin plurals in English, makes it a little more interesting IMO.

  • Foundation 1511 posts
    Aug. 16, 2023, 6:42 p.m.

    Dont get me going! I hate the use of media when medium is correct, and data instead of datum, to name but two instances. But I had the misfortune to do Latin and Greek in school, so I am still inclined to think that the pural of octopus is octopodés. Then there’s the use of gift as a verb, when there is the perfectly good word give. And I happen to live in a German-speaking country where english words are often substituted for perfectly good German words. I am told this is because the English words are considered „chic“, or something...

    David

  • Aug. 16, 2023, 8:07 p.m.

    Wasn't the use of nouns as verbs started by a USA president some time ago? Personally, I hate that misuse of the english language (I was brought up in a very classical school - and I got a very good score in English Language 'O' level).

  • Members 73 posts
    Aug. 16, 2023, 8:10 p.m.

    I was born and raised in the USA and my wife was born and raised in England. Use whatever brand of English you like. We have it all covered. Someone will figure it out.

  • Members 394 posts
    Aug. 16, 2023, 8:55 p.m.

    Hi,

    Back in the 80s, I was heavily into finding, rebuilding, running and selling of certain British racing cars.

    Lotus

    And it was common to refer to having more than one as Loti.

    I often had three or four in the works at a given time. So Loti it was for me.

    And I have a British English to American English dictionary in my head. Had to acquire one working on those cars. Lotus was famous for using piles of parts from just about all the British auto makers. That meant lots of documentation in another language which was still English! :P

    Stan

  • Removed user
    Aug. 16, 2023, 9:43 p.m.

    Ah, yes, emigrating to the USA from England required some re-education for me. Split pins became cotter pins, cotter pins became taper pins or keys, the spare wheel became the spare tire, dipped beam became low beam .... na-ni-na ... wheel nuts became lug nuts ... I'll stop there, running out of ink ...

  • Members 394 posts
    Aug. 16, 2023, 9:46 p.m.

    Hi,

    Boots, Bonnets and Hoods became Trunks, Hoods and Roofs. And, Lucky Us! the word Hood remains with a different meaning. Oh, well, we adapt. So, out to the workshop with a spanner I go. ;)

    Stan

  • Members 48 posts
    Aug. 17, 2023, 3:42 p.m.

    I thought if you had more than one the other were just called "spares" ! :0

  • Members 209 posts
    Aug. 17, 2023, 4:06 p.m.

    And then you get 'the media is ...'
    What about the noun Handy [for a cell / mobile phone]. Sounds English, is German

  • Members 73 posts
    Aug. 17, 2023, 5:10 p.m.

    I suppose it may be of some importance to know the meaning of certain British terms like boot or bonnet or loo. As an American man courting an English woman , I found greater value in learning the English meaning of Knickers.

  • Members 1665 posts
    Oct. 15, 2023, 3:36 a.m.

    I like bgreg's response. We "will figure it out". I've worked with many British people. Really, there's only a handful of differences between American English and English English. I never had a problem with that and I didn't know of anyone else that did either (from the people I knew). I liked hearing the accents from people from different parts of the UK. What was amazing, is that they all could speak so differently with those accents and they understood each other perfectly. It was harder for me to understand people from northern England near the Scottish border (I remember it being called Geordie and pronounced like Jordy). Remember that languages can vary from state to state, county to county or province to province. I know that Mexican Spanish is a little different than Spanish in Spain and other countries too. It's my understanding that Portuguese spoken in Brazil is different than what is spoken in Portugal. I don't know a lot about it, only what I have heard watching YouTube videos and reading about it.

    So write colour and I understand it means color...yes, we can figure it out. 😀 Oh, the people that rule the world are a small minority with money and power. The rest of us are just regular people that go to school, go to work, get older and hopefully enjoy life a little by getting outdoors and taking a few pictures. 😀

  • Members 643 posts
    Oct. 16, 2023, 6:12 p.m.

    Well said!

  • Oct. 17, 2023, 5:52 p.m.

    Not just you. I was brought up in Cambridge (the real one, not the copy in Mass. 😁) and then went to college in Durham in the North East of England. We had a Geordie there and it took me about 3 months before I understood what he was saying.

    Alan

  • Members 510 posts
    Oct. 17, 2023, 6:46 p.m.

    “I have no respect for a man who can spell a word only one way.”
    Mark Twain.

  • Members 222 posts
    Oct. 19, 2023, 9:55 a.m.

    Long live Pidgin English - widely spoken in its many forms but largely derided as a 'Mickey Mouse' language
    I wan chop
    You sure of dis tin wey you dey talk so?
    I no sabi

  • Removed user
    Oct. 19, 2023, 10:51 a.m.

    oh

    ho ho ho

  • Members 394 posts
    Oct. 19, 2023, 11:06 a.m.

    Hi,

    And then there is Engrish.

    Like is so many equipment manuals. ;)

    There's even a website devoted to Engrish. Engrish.com

    Have fun with it!

    Stan

  • Members 208 posts
    Oct. 20, 2023, 4:23 p.m.

    Are you sure it wasn't that he started to learn to talk properly after 3 months?
    I find Geordie, Glaswegian & Cockney to all be nearly incomprehensible, yet have had some success understanding foreigners talking an language I've not learnt. (Italian, Spanish, Dutch, German & Bulgarian all spring to mind).

    I'm generally quite accepting of Grammatical errors on Forums especially as I know there are many for who neither English or American are their native tounge.
    I do get a bit wound up by people using Lense instead of Lens, but I try to keep that to myself.

  • Members 643 posts
    Oct. 20, 2023, 7:06 p.m.
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    Oct. 20, 2023, 8:27 p.m.