• Members 510 posts
    April 1, 2023, 2:21 p.m.

    Wonderful! 👍👏 🥳

    But aren't you afraid there will be legal consequences? I wouldn't want Amazon's lawyers after me. 🥶

  • Members 535 posts
    April 1, 2023, 6:21 p.m.

    A GREAT thanks for a GREAT job.

    Thanks from my heart.

    Tie the membership of both sites In some way or the other, please.

    Being two things with different goals,

    doesn't mean they have a different user base, haven't they ?

  • Members 17 posts
    April 1, 2023, 7:03 p.m.

    Thanks everyone for ideas and comments.

    Re: tying the memberships and user accounts - it's the one thing that is more difficult than it looks. It may be the hardest thing! Good news is that both sides seem to be happy to collaborate, so i'm sure we'll explore linking the two closer together.

    In response to some specific questions:

    Q. But aren't you afraid there will be legal consequences?

    We didn't take any of the amazon property — all of the specs and camera data is published by the manufacturers.

    Will you be archiving the forums as well?

    No, we plan to leave the forums in the full purview of DPRevived! :)

    There's one thing I miss from the old DPR version: The announcement text

    That is a good point / idea, noted! Thank you.

    I see that you plan reviews, but there are at least two ways of doing that: The old DPR had both professional and user reviews. I don't know your plans, but I think both make sense going forward, but maybe differently: ...

    Exactly. We were thinking along the same lines. We already have a link to DPR review, and we'll add video (youtube reviews) next, and will add an ability for the users to add / link more if they find more.

    P.S. Looks like I got finally banned on DPR by Mako :) i can't send DMs anymore

  • Members 62 posts
    April 1, 2023, 7:06 p.m.

    ...which in practice strongly overlap. In fact, if there's no integration between them, I would expect dprevived to recreate the same products database, if nothing else to implement the My Gear List found at the bottom of every post in dpreview.

  • Members 17 posts
    April 1, 2023, 7:15 p.m.

    That looks great! Let's think of how we can collab or join forces: hello@digicamfinder.com

  • Members 146 posts
    April 1, 2023, 7:38 p.m.

    Gotta hand it to them. A last gasp of jack-boot authoritarianism before the site goes into the ether.

    It sucks, but at least you will only be banned for a week. 🙂

  • Members 4 posts
    April 1, 2023, 8:11 p.m.

    Just caught discovered this from Pal2Tech's YouTube channel. That's awesome news, thank you!

  • Members 22 posts
    April 1, 2023, 8:30 p.m.

    Well done, very good work!
    I notice that for reviews you are referencing the "Wayback Machine" archives which as you say is very slow at least at the moment.
    I have been doing some archive backups of a small selection of the camera reviews saved to archive.ph and in the course of doing this I noticed that some had already been archived via this method.
    For example the Z9 full review is archived here: archive.ph/Aluru
    Here is the Olympus OM1 review: archive.ph/yIj2c
    The Nikon Coolpix P950 review: archive.ph/TDyno
    etc!
    So I was wondering whether it might be feasible to link to such archives (if they exist) as a potentially faster facility?

    Frank

  • Members 17 posts
    April 1, 2023, 8:43 p.m.

    Hi Frank, could you tell me a bit more about archive.ph ? Not familiar with it.
    We're certainly interested in anything that's the same but faster :)

  • Members 22 posts
    April 1, 2023, 9:02 p.m.

    Yeah it's available to be saved to via a Microsoft Edge extension called Archive Page. If you have Microsoft Edge then you might find it already installed, otherwise it is available from the Microsoft Edge Addons store:
    Here's a screenshot of the displayed details page for this extension as displayed on my computer:

    MS Edge Archive Page extension details.JPG

    Hope that displays OK. As you can see the details there mention that the app is downloadable from the store.
    A lot of people aren't aware that such extensions can be accessed directly from the MS Edge toolbar (via the little icon that looks like a gear cog with a tooth missing).

    I hasten to add that although I have quite a strong IT background, one thing I am not is a web expert. Good luck with your endeavour!

    Frank

    MS Edge Archive Page extension details.JPG

    JPG, 168.3 KB, uploaded by FrankG on April 1, 2023.

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  • Members 3 posts
    April 1, 2023, 9:36 p.m.

    How you managed to do that, I have no idea. This is really great, I love it.

  • Members 17 posts
    April 2, 2023, 8:55 a.m.

    DPR will be protecting its intellectual property. They will do this a good deal and I'd suggest a backup plan if they object to dprevived.com as a domain name. I'd avoid a look and feel similar to DPR too.

  • Members 17 posts
    April 2, 2023, 7:50 p.m.

    Hm, are you saying this based on an insight from inside DPR?

  • April 2, 2023, 10:41 p.m.

    new name is on the list.
    new domain can be setup in no time
    but I doubt we will run into problems, if they shut down the domain anyway.
    If they sell the domain maybe, dono what amazon is up to.

  • Members 1 post
    April 3, 2023, 3:01 a.m.

    [quote="@petergreen"]
    Hello everyone! With my first post, wanted to share some positive news. We (small team of DPReview members who are also experienced web-devs) were able to preserve all of the camera data, re-build the camera feature search and quick search are now fully functional.

    The data/search is now live here digicamfinder.com/

    I’ve already made the same post on dpreview, but will summarize it here (going to have to live on both forums until April 10 😄)

    Our goal is to take over the data part of DPReview’s legacy and carry it forward.

    Why is this important, if the data had already been saved on archive.org?

    While Archive.org is great and ensures the data isn’t totally lost, it’s still very hard and slow to access. Also the site’s functionality (like search) often just doesn’t work at all. So our goal is to not only preserve the data, but also to keep it easily accessible.

    TO SAVE CONTENT

    Tried to post this at DP Review but with likely reduced staff, still awaiting approval:

    All thanks to gregalus of SoftArchive for this suggestion:

    This may help
    archive.org/web/web.php
    Again, huge loss.

    All Thanks to Rrigan at SoftArchive for this suggestion:

    it possible to save entire website offline using www.httrack.com/ its free or copyweb www.cyotek.com/cyotek-webcopy

    if small amount pages, no need to install software, I think web extension good enough, I often use this
    save-page

    to archive (save page to public online database, so we can access it online) there are
    web.archive.org : chrome extension
    archive.today

    note: archive only save single page, for example: abc.com will only save abc.com not abc.com/a, abc.com/b,
    to save entire webpages online you need to input each urls

    All thanks to bcb at SoftArchive for this:

    scrape the whole site with wget:
    wget -t 0 -r -l 0 -k -L -nH web.address.somewhere

  • Members 3 posts
    April 3, 2023, 8:11 a.m.

    Excellent news and many thanks!

    I delve into DPReview's camera information part ever so often,
    just as often as I dive into Imaging Resource's lens information treasure.

  • Members 3 posts
    April 3, 2023, 10:42 a.m.

    That's fantastic news! And thank you so much for doing all this. I use both the camera database and the lens database on Dpreview all the time - so its a relief to know that all the information will remain in tact and still accessible. You've saved the day!