• Members 1737 posts
    June 7, 2023, 3:50 p.m.

    Well, we've had focal plane shutters (a misnomer no matter which definition of focal plane you use) for a long time. And we talk about depth of field in front of the lens, and depth of focus behind the lens...

  • June 7, 2023, 3:56 p.m.

    I know - it's where photographers' parlance is out of key with optical parlance. But we know what they mean πŸ˜‰

  • June 7, 2023, 3:58 p.m.

    Agreed. Like saying that the steering wheel changes the speed of the car - yes it does but...

  • Members 35 posts
    June 7, 2023, 4:11 p.m.

    Ah, but such wonderful hogwash, full bodied, earthy, long on the palate, nervous, round, blah, blah, blah ...
    But wait, there's another article :
    The Exposure Triangle Sucks, Here’s Why
    petapixel.com/2016/07/18/never-teach-exposure-triangle-beginners/

    The more recent article is just a memory test.

  • Members 184 posts
    June 11, 2023, 1:46 a.m.

    Especially this forum. It's like a house of mirrors. Everyone is an "expert" and none of them agree with one-another.

    It's a bit like going to the circus and watching the clowns.

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 11, 2023, 3:19 a.m.

    No that is not quite right.

    If you read through the posts/articles of IliahBorg, JimKasson, Bobn2, MichaelFryd, Richard Butler (DPReview) et al you will see that they all say pretty much the same thing about what ISO is and its purpose.

    These 2 posts/articles also say pretty much the same as they do.

    The ins and outs of ISO: What is ISO?

    ISO For beginners

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 11, 2023, 4:13 a.m.

    Its funny because all those people you named use the iso control in there cameras the same as everyone else in the world.
    so whats your argument again πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«πŸ˜’πŸ™„

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 11, 2023, 5:52 a.m.

    What iso is and its purpose doesn't necessarily dictate how people must use iso.

    For example, I normally use Auto ISO.

    Another option is to set iso manually.

  • June 11, 2023, 10:42 a.m.

    That would seem to exhaust the options...

    David

  • Members 4254 posts
    June 11, 2023, 10:52 a.m.

    Yep, that was the point I was making πŸ€— in reply to DonaldB's comment implying that everyone in the world uses ISO in the same way which is ludicrous.

  • Members 976 posts
    June 11, 2023, 7:12 p.m.

    On some of my cameras I use direct sensor gain programming and never touch ISO control.

  • June 11, 2023, 7:32 p.m.

    It's a shame that camera manufacturers haven't thought to fit a 'set ISO randomly' control.

  • June 11, 2023, 7:59 p.m.

    Actually, as speed is a scalar quantity, I suspect you mean velocity.

    David

  • June 11, 2023, 9:05 p.m.

    No, I meant the speed.

  • Members 2332 posts
    June 11, 2023, 9:21 p.m.

    can you be more specific

  • Members 976 posts
    June 11, 2023, 9:25 p.m.

    It's like with video cameras, direct control, in dB or EV.

  • Removed user
    June 11, 2023, 10:18 p.m.

    But you did realize what David meant, I hope. With velocity being a vector, and any movement of the steering wheel changing the direction of motion.

  • Members 761 posts
    June 11, 2023, 10:36 p.m.

    Let me see if I’ve got this right. If it’s scalar, the consequence of turning the wheel changes speed by scrubbing energy from the wheels as the sidewalls of the tires encounter resistance against the road. If it’s vector, you’re exchanging distance/time in the x axis for d/t in the y axis (and probably z axis as well).

    Inquiring minds need to know.

    Rich