Nice cut and paste nonsense...
March 7, 2024
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Yeah, the Indians hate Trump so much...
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It was played through a filter of 'violence' by the mediatards. The other side is there if you really look. Did you ever watch the Capitol video tapes that Tucker Carlson released for the public to see. [The ones Schumer had meltdown over] Did you ever see/hear that Trump offered the national guard protection [which was hidden from acknowledgement by the Jan 6th committee]?
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Lol...nice try.
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You believe that the USA cannot conduct a fair trial? Really?
Lets run with this one - Yes and No to your question...
In trumps recent case, do you really believe he got a fair trial? I'm referring to this one here:
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68407054 -
Seeing as Nov 5th is looming for the USA election, and fake news is flying about courtesy of the lamestream mediaturds, there might also be a powder keg of BS on Guy Fawkes night in the UK. I can see the headlines either way...oh dear!
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...and the head of the United Auto Workers probably never shook hands with a Republican before they're destroying you know Mexico has taken over a period of 30 years 34% of the automobile manufacturing business in our country think of it went to Mexico. China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico and think they think they're gonna sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border. Let me tell you something to China if you're listening President Xi and you and I are friends but he understands the way I deal those big monster car manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now and you think you're going to get that you're going to not hire Americans and you're going to sell the cars to us now we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line and you're not going to be able to sell those guys if I get elected. Now if I don't get elected it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole that's going to be the least of it. It's going to be a blood bath for the country that'll be the least of it but they're not going to sell those cars they're building massive factories a friend of mine all he does is build car manufacturing plants he's the biggest in the world I mean honestly I joke about it he can't walk across the street in that way he's like Biden but for building a plant he can do the greatest plants in the world, right. That's all he cares about. I said I'd like to see one of your plants recently I said where can we go. Well we have to travel to Mexico. I said why Mexico he said because that's where the big plants are building. China's building really big plants in Mexico and Mexicos's building what about here well we're building much smaller plants here can you believe it? Can you believe it so what they're saying Jim Jordan is we're going to make cars in Mexico and they're going to you're not going to stand for that Bernie JD I have a feeling JD is not JD is not big into that policy 100% tariff they won't sell any cars over here and I'll tell them if they want to build a plant in...Michigan...in Ohio in South Carolina they can using American workers they can they can't send Chinese workers over here which they sometimes do but if they want to do that we're welcome right but they're not going to build them in Mexico and they're not going to do that we're going to tariff them at 100% just like I've done I save the steel industry the people that like me most of the steel companies but now I've been out for a little while and guess what United States Steel 50 60 years ago probably the greatest steel company in the world has just been sold to Japan how do you like that US steel owned and controlled by Japan I wouldn't have allowed it to happen. Hopefully they won't allow it to happen when I'm president.
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For the crimes for which he is being prosecuted. No way, no how, would John Q. Public get treatment as good as Trump is getting.
That's not because of a conspiracy, it's because the evidence against them is not "substantial enough". For example, as Bob has already pointed out to you in great detail, had Trump simply turned over the classified documents (as Biden did), he'd not be going to trial. But he more than refused to return the documents, and that's why he's being prosecuted. If you unwilling to understand that (I say "unwilling" because I know you are capable -- you simply choose to ignore this key difference), then there's no point in going further.
I cannot imagine a bigger line of BS. If that's your honest take on the matter (that Hillary Clinton and Biden are "immune" from prosecution), then I'm done with this, too.
Like has been explained to you, Trump wouldn't have been prosecuted for taking classified documents had he returned them like Biden had. Biden didn't do anything remotely like what Trump did trying to overturn the election, and for you to be so nuts as to think that every single investigation into voter fraud has come up either naught or the fraud being mainly by republicans is absolute nuts. What did Mike Pence say about Trump's role in the insurrection? Hmm. And then there's the quick honesty check -- had the people participating in the insurrection been by Blacks/Muslims, at best, they'd all have been arrested, and at worst it would have been a bloodbath with the police slaughtering the insurrectionists, with the Right would have cum all over themselves watching it happen.
Long story short -- it's not "But both sides!" Not even close. Yes, the entire government is corrupt. Yes, some democrats are worse than some republicans. But the GOP is now a full-on christofascist organization and Project 2025 is a chilling document for what's in store for the US should Trump win. Oh wait, I linked to "dorkopedia" again (or whatever it is you called it). Yeah, waiting for your link to an extreme right wing blog that gets the facts "right". SMH.
Anyway, enough about that. Want to talk multiplication tables or math education in California in general? Because, like I say, that just so happens to be something I'm more than a little familiar with, personally and professionally.
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You might think the the NY law is wrong, but the evidence produced showed pretty much that he did what he was accused of. It didn't help him that his legal team was incompetent (that's what you end up with if you don't pay your lawyers) and that he kept on incriminating himself - like for instance repeatedly complaining that the judge had valued Mar-a-Lago a $18M when it was worth ten times that - which was essentially admitting to exactly what he was charged with (the judge had not valued it, a district valuer had valued it at $26M for property tax purposes. Trump appealed that value as too high and had it reduced to $18M. At the same time for loan collateral purposes he was valuing it at $612M. So he was either defrauding the tax man or the bank, one of the two (or both)). Of course, if you're in a trial and your attorney has forgotten to check the box for a jury trial, so that the judge is the trier of fact, it's generally not a great idea to spend your time insulting and attacking the judge and his clerk. It's not going to make him see things your way. In short, Trump brought all of that on himself.
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Then how come he's the Republican nomination for president again then? Your theory on his intelligence explain how he got there on his own, or why he hasn't been sabotaged? Shouldn't be that hard, no conspiracy other than the profit motive.
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So, do you really believe he got a fair trial?
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I (the other poster) did not insist anything. I copied a direct definition - which I now acknowledge could be too restrictive:
www.google.com/search?q=define+insurrection - a violent uprising against an authority or government.
Saying that, I don't see how the possibility of an insurrection being non-violent changes the discussion. The insurrection of January 6 was not passive or peaceful. It was direct and violent.
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In any case, no, those who breached the Capitol did not have guns with them. Why not? That's a good question. I have possible answers:
1) If they had firearms, they would be shot. They had the numbers, so there was no need for firearms, so they didn't bring any.
2) If they used firearms, their cause would be "sullied", and the assault would have worked even more against them in terms of public opinion.
3) The military might be called in, and that wouldn't suit their agenda, either.These are all guesses on my part. But, as the link above demonstrates, it was a violent insurrection. If people had done the same to protest George Floyd at a police station, we know what would have happened, especially if the people who did it weren't light skinned.
Now, this is not to say that everyone at the "event" was an insurrectionist. I actually saw a video of a Trumper at the uprising who was very concerned. He told a cop to keep them in check and that they meant harm. Let me look for the video... Can't find it. Oh well. Anyway, like I said, not all people there were insurrectionists. But a lot were. And some members of Congress were in on it.
