• Members 654 posts
    Nov. 30, 2024, 8:41 p.m.

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    Sunset 29 Nov 2024.jpg

    JPG, 790.0Β KB, uploaded by GreatBustard on Nov. 30, 2024.

  • Members 654 posts
    Nov. 30, 2024, 9:57 p.m.

    Thanks -- I made the sunset all by myself. 😁

    Actually, what's really pathetic is that I was taking this and that photo of it for some time with two cameras, with little breaks in between waiting while the light and color were changing, and it only occurred to me at the very end, when the sunset was essentially done, to do a pano with my phone! Ugh! Since I sometimes don't get around to processing photos for years, it might be some time before I do this sunset with the photos from my "real cameras".

    I will say that I wish I could make panos like that with my "real cameras" as easily as I did with my phone -- seems like it wouldn't be too hard of a feature to implement, but maybe too processing intensive for what "real cameras" have inside. What would be awesome is if you could attach your phone to the hotshoe, and then with an app and bluetooth and/or USB connection, use an app in the camera for both LCD playback and features, such as the in camera pano. Even better if the hotshoe connection would allow the camera to rotate and fold. I mean, smartphones have been out for long enough that if it could be done, I should think it would have already been done by someone. But it hasn't, so either all the camera manufacturers are missing the obvious, it's too difficult/expensive to do, or I'm in the minority of people that would be interested in such a feature (although that would surprise me, if true).

  • Members 1714 posts
    Nov. 30, 2024, 10:14 p.m.

    Pretty amazing when seen big.

    Cell phones make disturbingly good photographs, that make me wonder about "real cameras" sometimes.

  • Nov. 30, 2024, 10:27 p.m.

    Just to say that quite a few 'real' cameras can do pano now.

    Alan

  • Dec. 1, 2024, 9:59 a.m.

    Apart from Photoshop, there are several programs that stich together a series of photos to make a panorama. The latter are free. My iPhone SE3 does a good job, and also my Sony RX100. A 50mm lens seems optimum for this.

    David

  • Members 1714 posts
    Dec. 1, 2024, 10:34 a.m.

    Microsoft once had a free program, fruit of a University researchers work, that did a really good automatic stitching. I have Hugin, but like most collaborative freeware programs, but is a bit overcomplicated.

  • Members 654 posts
    Dec. 1, 2024, 7:49 p.m.

    Well, that's why smartphones decimated the dedicated camera market!

    But can they do it like smartphones do? That is, I select "pano", press the shutter to start, pan the camera as much as I need (would be great if I could go up down and all around, too -- maybe I can with a smartphone, just never tried), then press the shutter to end, and it will produce the pano? Ideally, of course, I'd love that pano to be saved as a RAW, but even a tiff or png would be great.

    Anyway, can you give me an example of how it's done on a dedicated camera? Preferably, on the camera that has the best implementation of it? Thanks!

    Yeah, but it's it much more inconvenient: take a bunch of photos of the scene, convert one of them from RAW, save the settings used in the conversion, use those same settings for the rest of the photos, select the photos, choose "stitch", and convert. 'Twould be so much nicer if you could just get a single file out of the camera (again, as mentioned above, ideally RAW even though I know that's not happening, but tiff or png would be doable, methinks) simply by choosing pano mode, pressing the shutter to start, and then pressing the shutter again to end.

    Also, would be great if it could merge photos as well. For example, I meter the scene, select "merge", press the shutter to start and end, and the camera just keeps snapping away in the interim. Then it aligns and stacks all the photos together and outputs a single file. If the pano option also did this, that would be even better!

    With regards to the optimum lens, I would think that, motion blur not being an issue, I would say the longer the better (with regards to ultimate IQ). Just would take more time to cover the scene. For example, a 135 / 1.8 would produce an insanely detailed photo, but would take 7x longer to cover the scene.

  • Dec. 1, 2024, 8:03 p.m.

    Taken with my fuji X-T5

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    JPG, 3.0Β MB, uploaded by AlanSh on Dec. 1, 2024.

  • Dec. 1, 2024, 8:29 p.m.

    Fuji x100v does that too. I have no good example because I tried that only once and could not hold camera straight, result is a bit (well, seriously) crooked :)
    It may not the best implementation in x100v (you have do more than to press just one button - you kinda need to prepare field of view before), but quite usable. Unfortunately it produces only JPEG output :(

  • Members 654 posts
    Dec. 2, 2024, 1:06 a.m.

    What's the output file size (in pixels)? Is it proportional to how far you pan? For example, let's say you pan 40 degrees and the resulting image file is 10000 pixels wide. If you pan 80 degrees, will it be 20000 pixels wide, or the same?

    Doesn't it just crop top and bottom to make a smooth border? Or were you trying it on a trampoline? πŸ˜†

  • Dec. 2, 2024, 7:24 a.m.

    Everything was smooth, this wasn't a problem - just horisontal subject (pond) was not straight, but bent.
    Phones include orientation sensors, which do help in such situations - x100v likely does not and relies on operator hands.

  • Dec. 2, 2024, 11:54 a.m.

    I have no idea. I just keep rotating my body until the camera stops clicking.

  • Members 534 posts
    Dec. 2, 2024, 3:26 p.m.

    I have Hugin too and I find the GUI thoroughly confusing. OT, I don't take panos but occasionally use the image stack alignment command-line function that comes with it.

  • Dec. 2, 2024, 4:51 p.m.

    I made this one with my 3MP Olympus camera 20 years ago of the lake next to our house in Michigan by just rotating myself through almost 360 degrees and pressing the button eleven times. The result was stitched together recently by an old version of Photoshop.

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    David

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    JPG, 3.3Β MB, uploaded by davidwien on Dec. 2, 2024.