sorry that was Jacs that has the canon R
sorry that was Jacs that has the canon R
@DonaldB has written:fast pan and stationary shot.
Yes, that example shows a bit of compression/expansion.
Here's an example that shows more. The V3 electronic shutter has a readout speed of about 1/80s. I guess 1/8000s was unnecessarily fast, but I was panning pretty fast and wanted to avoid blur. I stopped after catching these two almost perfectly framed shots.
something is not right. is your camera reading the sensor the other way ?
something is not right. is your camera reading the sensor the other way ?
Not right? I don't know which way the sensor reads. Of course it reads across the short side, if that's what you're asking. As I said, one shot was panning toward the right and the other shot was panning toward the left.
@DonaldB has written:something is not right. is your camera reading the sensor the other way ?
Not right? I don't know which way the sensor reads. Of course it reads across the short side, if that's what you're asking. As I said, one shot was panning toward the right and the other shot was panning toward the left.
the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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@sybersitizen has written: @DonaldB has written:something is not right. is your camera reading the sensor the other way ?
Not right? I don't know which way the sensor reads. Of course it reads across the short side, if that's what you're asking. As I said, one shot was panning toward the right and the other shot was panning toward the left.
the v13 is no faster than my a6300
It's a V3, not a V13.
I can't comment with any authority about electronic shutter cameras other than mine, but the other poster was confident that the A6300 sensor is much slower.
I told you earlier that the distortion is determined by a combination of the readout speed and the panning speed. If your camera's sensor is slower and you're getting a similar level of distortion as I got with mine, it simply means you were panning at a different speed.
the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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Don, your a6300's readout is four times slower than syber's 1v3.
immune to feedback?
@DonaldB has written:the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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Don, your a6300's readout is four times slower than syber's 1v3.
immune to feedback?
not by the look of the test images. i cant pan any faster ,i even pre focus swing the camera till the subject hits the center and take the shot. that would be like panning a race car. after reading reviews on the 1v3 every states that nikon over stated the specs and back then everyone did.
@finnan has written: @DonaldB has written:the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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Don, your a6300's readout is four times slower than syber's 1v3.
immune to feedback?not by the look of the test images.
I told you why yours look similar: you were panning slower. Your slower sensor shows the same level of distortion when panned at slower speeds than mine.
after reading reviews on the 1v3 every states that nikon over stated the specs and back then every did.
Bullshit. I also pointed out that the V3 can sync electronic shutter with normal flash (not HSS) at 1/60s. So we know it's at least 1/60s, and testing has shown it to be 1/80s. Why do you resist accepting that?
@DonaldB has written: @finnan has written: @DonaldB has written:the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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Don, your a6300's readout is four times slower than syber's 1v3.
immune to feedback?not by the look of the test images.
I told you why yours look similar: you were panning slower. Your slower sensor shows the same level of distortion when panned at slower speeds than mine.
Quoted message:after reading reviews on the 1v3 every states that nikon over stated the specs and back then every did.
Bullshit. I also pointed out that the V3 can sync electronic shutter with normal flash (not HSS) at 1/60s. So we know it's at least 1/60s, and testing has shown it to be 1/80s. Why do you resist accepting that?
they said my em12 could sync at 1/60 sec as well but i couldn't get any more the 1/15 😉
isnt it funny looking back, i just read the specs 50 secs to clear 40 images 😆 they called it the speed demon 🤔 shoots video for 10 mins max 3 min at 120 frames at 240x 320 or something like that. why i love my 74 there is no buffer clearing time even if i shoot a 400 image stack. no blackout evf. my a6300 is ok but still a dog by comparison.
they said my em12 could sync at 1/60 sec as well but i couldn't get any more the 1/15 😉
Em1.2 shoots silent shutter at 60fps, so readout definitely faster than 1/60 sec (<16 msec).
You either goofed your menu settings or used an incompatible flash. RTFM
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why i love my 74 there is no buffer clearing time even if i shoot a 400 image stack. no blackout evf. my a6300 is ok but still a dog by comparison.
Drinking too much of the Sony kool-aid?
Our first look at the rolling shutter rates suggests this isn't an especially fast sensor. 14-bit readout of the whole sensor for stills takes around 1/15 sec (~66ms), which is around seventeen times longer than the super-fast a1 takes to read out its sensor. This means silent shutter mode is likely to result in significant distortion with moving subjects.
A7.4 is about eight times slower than om1.
@DonaldB has written:...
why i love my 74 there is no buffer clearing time even if i shoot a 400 image stack. no blackout evf. my a6300 is ok but still a dog by comparison.Drinking too much of the Sony kool-aid?
m.dpreview.com/reviews/sony-a7-iv-review has written:Our first look at the rolling shutter rates suggests this isn't an especially fast sensor. 14-bit readout of the whole sensor for stills takes around 1/15 sec (~66ms), which is around seventeen times longer than the super-fast a1 takes to read out its sensor. This means silent shutter mode is likely to result in significant distortion with moving subjects.
A7.4 is about eight times slower than om1.
the a74 flogs the om1 😁😁
mirrorlesscomparison.com/best/mirrorless-cameras-for-birds-in-flight/
@finnan has written:A7.4 is about eight times slower than om1.
the a74 flogs the om1 😁😁
mirrorlesscomparison.com/best/mirrorless-cameras-for-birds-in-flight/
🤘🤣
Despite the higher resolution, the a7 IV can still shoot at 10 frames per second. However, it can only do so in the lossy compressed format if you want to shoot Raw, and drops to 12-bit mode, further reducing dynamic range. The a7 IV has a lossless compression option, for when you need maximum processing flexibility, but the burst rate drops to around 6 fps if you use it. Sony says the camera's buffer depth allows over 800 Raw+JPEG images (or over 1000 JPEGs), but this is in the uncompressed Raw format, which again shoots at around 6 fps.
Max shooting rate
Compressed Raw (damagingly lossy) 10 fps (12-bit)
Lossless compressed/ Uncompressed Raw 6 fps (14-bit)
@sybersitizen has written: @DonaldB has written: @finnan has written: @DonaldB has written:the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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Don, your a6300's readout is four times slower than syber's 1v3.
immune to feedback?not by the look of the test images.
I told you why yours look similar: you were panning slower. Your slower sensor shows the same level of distortion when panned at slower speeds than mine.
Quoted message:after reading reviews on the 1v3 every states that nikon over stated the specs and back then every did.
Bullshit. I also pointed out that the V3 can sync electronic shutter with normal flash (not HSS) at 1/60s. So we know it's at least 1/60s, and testing has shown it to be 1/80s. Why do you resist accepting that?
they said my em12 could sync at 1/60 sec as well but i couldn't get any more the 1/15 😉
Whoever 'they' are and whatever 'they' said, the V3 x-sync at 1/60s is a fact. It's in the manual, and it's in the camera, and I can shoot with flash at 1/60s with no issues.
isnt it funny looking back, i just read the specs 50 secs to clear 40 images 😆 they called it the speed demon 🤔 shoots video for 10 mins max 3 min at 120 frames at 240x 320 or something like that. why i love my 74 there is no buffer clearing time even if i shoot a 400 image stack. no blackout evf. my a6300 is ok but still a dog by comparison.
As usual, I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. Are you finding things to disparage about the V3 because you don't like the fact that its readout speed is far faster than your camera? This thread isn't a pissing contest. It's an exercise in correcting your misconceptions.
@DonaldB has written: @sybersitizen has written: @DonaldB has written: @finnan has written: @DonaldB has written:the v13 is no faster than my a6300
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Don, your a6300's readout is four times slower than syber's 1v3.
immune to feedback?not by the look of the test images.
I told you why yours look similar: you were panning slower. Your slower sensor shows the same level of distortion when panned at slower speeds than mine.
Quoted message:after reading reviews on the 1v3 every states that nikon over stated the specs and back then every did.
Bullshit. I also pointed out that the V3 can sync electronic shutter with normal flash (not HSS) at 1/60s. So we know it's at least 1/60s, and testing has shown it to be 1/80s. Why do you resist accepting that?
they said my em12 could sync at 1/60 sec as well but i couldn't get any more the 1/15 😉
Whoever 'they' are and whatever 'they' said, the V3 x-sync at 1/60s is a fact. It's in the manual, and it's in the camera, and I can shoot with flash at 1/60s with no issues.
Quoted message:isnt it funny looking back, i just read the specs 50 secs to clear 40 images 😆 they called it the speed demon 🤔 shoots video for 10 mins max 3 min at 120 frames at 240x 320 or something like that. why i love my 74 there is no buffer clearing time even if i shoot a 400 image stack. no blackout evf. my a6300 is ok but still a dog by comparison.
As usual, I'm not even sure what you're trying to say. Are you finding things to disparage about the V3 because you don't like the fact that its readout speed is far faster than your camera? This thread isn't a pissing contest. It's an exercise in correcting your misconceptions.
not putting down the v1. just an interesting read from 10 yold cameras that were state of the art. were so fast at somethings ans so slow at others. so the bottle neck will always make a camera more difficult to use in the real world. its like the a93 can shoot 120 frames for 1.6 secs takes 11 secs to clear and can only shoot 105 jpegs before the buffer fills.
not putting down the v1.
Okay then. Again, I've been talking about the V3 ... but I also have a V1 as a backup. It's not nearly as versatile as the V3.
just an interesting read from 10 yold cameras that were state of the art. were so fast at somethings ans so slow at others. so the bottle neck will always make a camera more difficult to use in the real world. its like the a93 can shoot 120 frames for 1.6 secs takes 11 secs to clear and can only shoot 105 jpegs before the buffer fills.
The Nikon 1 series is full of contradictions. Each of the 11 models supports 1/60s flash sync with electronic shutter. The AF system in the better models is extremely good for its time. But there are also plenty of irritating shortcomings when compared to other systems. I like my Nikon 1 cameras, but they can't take the place of my other cameras that have very different strengths and weaknesses.
@DonaldB has written:not putting down the v1.
Okay then. Again, I've been talking about the V3 ... but I also have a V1 as a backup. It's not nearly as versatile as the V3.
Quoted message:just an interesting read from 10 yold cameras that were state of the art. were so fast at somethings ans so slow at others. so the bottle neck will always make a camera more difficult to use in the real world. its like the a93 can shoot 120 frames for 1.6 secs takes 11 secs to clear and can only shoot 105 jpegs before the buffer fills.
The Nikon 1 series is full of contradictions. Each of the 11 models supports 1/60s flash sync with electronic shutter. The AF system in the better models is extremely good for its time. But there are also plenty of irritating shortcomings when compared to other systems. I like my Nikon 1 cameras, but they can't take the place of my other cameras that have very different strengths and weaknesses.
a friend has a v1 and he loved it for shooting birds side by side with his d500.