• Members 1244 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 7:41 a.m.

    Agreed. But what I was getting at is that different cameras may allow different parameters to also be set within the mode. What is available depends on the camera. Perhaps the iso need not be set to either Auto or manual when in Av (or what Sony would call Aperture Priority.) On most Sony for example, limits can be set on the iso and shutter speed speeds that will be auto selected when in various modes. I think Chris might find it useful to explore these possibilities on his camera.

  • Members 3613 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 7:57 a.m.

    This makes no sense because on every camera I have used iso must be set either manually to a fixed value until set again or to Auto where an upper limit can be set.

    Iso cannot be set neither manually or to auto.

    Most cameras have those features on at least above entry level models.

  • Sept. 27, 2024, 9:01 a.m.

    Gents, let's get back to the pictures. You can start a new thread on what it means to set (or not) certain aspects of camera settings.

    Alan

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    Sept. 27, 2024, 9:40 a.m.

    ** SEA RESCUE **

    I'm not sure if they were actually looking for someone in the water or on a training drill but I didn't see them pulling anyone out of the water while I was there.


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  • Members 1244 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 10:13 a.m.

    I was interested in picking up the kind of small roof details that Rich 42 finds over and over. In Kanazawa the traditional Japanese roof lines and guttering sit everywhere alongside the modern lines. The second shot is a bit of an anomaly and doesn't fit with the rest I took around the same theme. The background makes it quite different and it is the only one I moved to B&W. It wasn't the best choice to put these together, I liked them both and this lost track of the pairing. Dan has made the same point about the B&W contrast in the second. I had tried it but didn't like it. I think this is because I took the shot in late evening and remembered it in low light.

  • Members 1244 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 10:32 a.m.

    Number three gets my "looks best" vote but saying that feels unfair.
    Three has the twists and turns of the water run to explore and the church here is big enough to be a feature while continuing the vertical movement. The evident age of the church helps the interpretation of traditional landscape. It's all very country romantic. Number one is more "scientific." A look at the environment and plants. The romanticism is replaced with details that may be equally as fascinating in their own right.
    Both are part of the joys of the walk.

  • Members 1244 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 10:34 a.m.
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    Sept. 27, 2024, 10:36 a.m.

    I'd want to leave 1 as is but you might be right about 2. Ref the response I made to minniev.

  • Members 1244 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 10:59 a.m.

    Handsome, isn't he! When viewed at small size, the bird looks a little too dark. When viewed larger, the eye and beautifully dappled breast foliage are perfectly clear. A bird in his element. The common duck behind your main subject didn't help you by standing behind. He messes up the head profile of our hero. I'd be inclined to crop tighter around the main bird and make it the unchallenged subject.

  • Members 3613 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 11:18 a.m.

    The first one looks too flat for me and needs more contrast (which is available) to give it more punch.

    Cropping out the corner of the roof in the B&W because it breaks up the repeating patterns in the background, which for me is much more interesting than the foreground you had, makes a more compelling image.

  • Members 3613 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 12:45 p.m.

    I would clone out the duck under the goose's head. Very quick and simple.


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  • Members 675 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 6 p.m.

    Chris, Minnie, Fireplace, Mike,

    Thanks everyone for the kind words.

    When Nature puts on a show, just hang on and enjoy the ride!

    I had "planned" this shoot for more than a month, according to the tide tables with very low tide coinciding with late afternoon-sunset. The key dates were Thur 9/19 and Fri 9/20. These were 9/20.

    Just hours before, the Oceanside, CA "Super Girl Surf Pro" competition was taking place exactly where I was standing. It was scheduled for the full weekend. From early morning to just after Noon, the water would have been several feet over the top of my head at that spot.

    But now the tide was out. Really out. Giving that wonderful reflective surface.

    I was actually standing on the ocean floor, as were the people in the shots. The Oceanside Pier, just to my right, out of the shot was festooned with banners of the event. There's a plastic balloon visible in the water that acted as a marker buoy for the surfing contestants. It's in the low breakers here, but during the event, was actually in very deep water far beyond any waves.

    To my back was the dry beach. There was a rock band playing. It was very festive and alive, with crowds milling around, in shops and restaurants, unlike the "Lonely, End of Summer" scenes in front of me.

    This was a prime example of "F/8 and Be There" photography. I just aimed the camera around and gobbled up the goodness that Nature presented. Gorgeous light, color, sea gulls, people. These scenes just composed themselves. I was simply there at the time with a camera.

    Rich

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    Sept. 27, 2024, 10:57 p.m.

    Taking out the foreground completely changes the point of the original image. You have to consider what is being done in the photo. As I said to minniev, I'd played with the black and white points but doing so changed the time of day implied and I didn't want that.

  • Members 3613 posts
    Sept. 27, 2024, 11:04 p.m.

    That's fine but the point I am making is that I find your background much more interesting and compelling than your foreground for the reasons I posted.

    Isn't one of the purposes of C&C to exchange ideas and suggestions?

    In any case, I don't feel any implied time of day in the image because it's B&W. With B&W it is not difficult in post to make a scene look just about any time of day.

    What I see is a low contrast image that imo could do with a boost to add "punch" to it.

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    Sept. 27, 2024, 11:53 p.m.

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    It's me LouHolland

    Hello everyone I'm back after again a long time in an hospital and some medical rehabilitation. Oh btw for minniev and some others
    who were so kind to comment on my photos a few months ago, thanks for that.
    I won't write many comments but will try my best every now and then.
    Lou

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    Sept. 28, 2024, 12:10 a.m.
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    Sept. 28, 2024, 2:30 p.m.

    Welcome home, Lou, so glad to see you back. Hope you are continuing to improve. That iris is quite beautiful. The purple against the black backdrop gives it a classic, somewhat Victorian look. Lovely color treatment.

  • Members 288 posts
    Sept. 28, 2024, 7:12 p.m.

    I'm so happy that you're back, Lou.
    Hopefully for a long time...
    I really like the first photo, you took the post-processing to an artistic level.
    Very well done!