• Members 357 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 12:40 a.m.

    Welcome to the Black and White Photography thread #2 for (9 Feb 2025).
    We’re dedicated to fostering discussions about Black and White photography. This open peer-to-peer forum allows critical feedback on images, leading to discussions on techniques, styles, interpretation, and storytelling. The first weeks response has been outstanding - keep them coming.

    It’s easy - To participate: post an image or essay with a title, short description, and explanation. All comments must include the image or essay as a quote. Replies may or may not include quotes.

    THREAD GUIDELINES:
    1. This thread is for learning about Black and White photography.
    2. Post one image or photo essay for comments.
    3. Entries can be single images or short photo essays (3 to 10 connected images that tell a story).
    4. Give your entry a clear title and explain why you took it and the story it tells.
    5. Provide constructive feedback on others’ images/essays.
    6. Go beyond simple praise or dismissal.
    7. Explain why you like an image or essay.
    8. Negative feedback is welcome (be polite, honest, and constructive).
    9. Stay on topic and avoid politics or distractions.

    We refine our skill-craft through feedback - Analyzing prints pinned on the virtual wall is our approach, but discussions of styles and techniques are also acceptable. While most images are captured digitally, Black and White film can also discussed. The focus is on image.

    Post a photo or photo essay and get comments and feedback. In return, give honest but constructive opinions of others’ images. A simple “like” is insufficient. There are multiple levels of feedback: composition, technique, emotion and storytelling, etc.
    What caught your eye about an image and why? What draws you in and what distracts you? What changes would you make? Does the photographer tell their story? Does the image communicate their viewpoint or emotion? As W. Eugene Smith said, “A photo is a small voice, at best, but sometimes – just sometimes – one photograph or a group of them can lure our senses into awareness.” Does the image meet Smith’s criteria?

    Explore the image in your head, considering composition, perspective, toning, balance, exposure, and tonality. Consider the story, emotion or opinion the artist is trying to communicate. Provide feedback.

    Downloading and reposting - (please note: clear instructions are required).
It’s often challenging to verbalize useful comments about images. Instead, it’s easier to “show.” Unless the original poster specifically states otherwise, participants are free to download, alter, and repost images in replies to express their analysis and critique. The reposted image may remain permanently or be removed after a short period. Downloaded and altered images shall not be used for other purposes or uploaded elsewhere.

    Encouragement - When I first pinned a print on the cork-board for the professor and class to analyze, I was apprehensive. However, it proved to be an effective way to learn and develop my skills and vision. Well reasoned analysis and comments aid the artist in improving their vision, skill, and style. The goal is to promote and encourage people to enhance their artistic vision and skill in Black and White Photography by providing constructive feedback. General feedback is also welcome. Sharing techniques for capturing or processing images that aid in creating good Black and White images or photo essays is appreciated in replies.

    Why focus on Black and White - As Elliott Erwitt said, “Color is descriptive. Black and White is interpretive.” It’s an abstraction that simplifies photography by focusing on composition, forms, shapes, tonality, textures, and emotions. Ansel Adams famously said, “You don’t take a photograph, you make a photograph.”

    Clyde Butcher talks about the hundreds of photographers who flock to Inspiration Point in Yosemite National Park for the “golden hour.” However, the composition at sunrise is poor. For Black and White, it’s not about the color of the light, but the quality of the light. Ansel Adams arrived midmorning when the light was “right” to produce his iconic images. His iconic book, “Yosemite and the Range of Light,” had a significant impact on conservation and environmental movements in the West. It also attracts thousands of photographers each year to capture the “Range of Light.”

    clydebutcher.com

    Nick Ut’s “Napalm Girl” captured the horrors of the Vietnam War and profoundly impacted the United States. Stripped of distractions, the image exposed the terror in the children’s faces, prompting critical questioning of government actions. W. Eugene Smith’s “Minamata” warned the world. It exposed a corporation poisoning water and killing residents, highlighting the suffering of the Minamata community for profit. William Henry Jackson’s photographs convinced Congress to preserve Yellowstone as the first national park, leading to the creation of the National Park Service and commitment to wild land preservation.

    aboutphotography.blog/blog/the-terror-of-war-nick-uts-napalm-girl-1972
    www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/society-arts-culture/w-eugene-smith-minamata-warning-to-the-world/
    www.pbagalleries.com/first-photographic-images-of-yellowstone/

    Black and White strips away distractions to expose emotions. It tells unique stories in various photographic genres, from landscapes to social documentaries to portraiture. Check out Annie Leibovitz’s Black and White work.

    blog.artsper.com/en/a-closer-look/why-artists-choose-black-and-white-photography/
    fstoppers.com/fashion/why-its-still-important-shoot-black-and-white-48141
    www.designspiration.com/save/1600176374707/

    Another resource is the “Daybooks of Edward Weston,” though dated, still relevant.

    Additional Resources - It is encouraged to discuss additional resources on Black and White photography in posts, whether in your images or commenting on others’ when those resources aid in the goals of the thread.

    Growing Together - The Black and White thread focuses on growth and learning together. Be active, honest, and respectful.

  • Members 357 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 12:41 a.m.

    His Story is in His Face - His Pride is in His Hat

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  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 3:50 a.m.

    Addiction
    A Japanese craze that utterly mystified me.
    Across Japan you will find shop after shop like this withe banks and banks of coin in the slot machines that dispense...I don't know.....they look like small toys of no special interests. Japanese of all ages will be inside carefully selecting from the multi hundreds of choices. Does anyone know what these are about?
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  • Members 757 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 6:36 a.m.

    Mike,

    if my reading is correct, this a variation of our slot machines, only instead of dispensing money, they dispense toys or collectibles.

    Read up about Gachapon here:

    Gachapon

    Steve Thomas

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 7:04 a.m.

    Thanks stevet1. That's them alright. My mystery with the fascination remains. The rewards for your yen look so pathetic that I can only imagine them appealing to the youngest of children. But the lure is across age and sex divisions. There are thousands of these shops and some are vast.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 8:13 a.m.

    Lined old faces and B&W. It always works.
    Here the hats are doing more than tell us something of the style of the owners. They make the link between them as well. While we can't see the face of the bloke on the left, the hat peaks tell us they are looking straight into each other's eyes. A moment of communication at a deep level.

  • Members 757 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 2:14 p.m.

    Mike,

    I guess it's a way of collecting Pokemon, or Cabbage Patch Kids, or Barbie Dolls.
    The part I like is if you're trying to get a certain one, you have to keep feeding it money and you wind up with a lot of redundancy until you get the one you want.
    Those machines are designed to eat up a lot of money.

    P.S. I like the camera on the girl's shoulder.

    Steve Thomas

  • Feb. 9, 2025, 3:04 p.m.

    Memories of the lost summer

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    DXO Photolab, adjustments, crop, NIK Siver Efex

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  • Members 1056 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 3:45 p.m.

    Icicles over running water

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  • Members 1915 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 3:56 p.m.

    Semola Teatro

    Digital scans from some old pictures taken back in 1988, with a Nikon FM2 and probably a Nikon 180 2.8.

    Semola Teatro were a crazy Spanish experimental theatre company, based in Barcelona. I met them in Reggio Emilia, and they invited me to photograph them when they toured in Italy a couple of times. They used my pictures for publicity. Contacts and pictures went back and forth by snail mail in a slower era. The multiple exposures are one single exposure. Quiz: how did I do them?

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  • Members 357 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 7:48 p.m.

    Nice story with a few specular images - #'s 1, 2, 4, 5, 6. I assume you used the D800 and Z7 for the scans. As for the multiple exposures, maybe some sort of timed strobe.

  • Members 357 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 7:50 p.m.

    I like this. Interesting composition, good tonality that gives the sensation of cold.

  • Members 357 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 7:52 p.m.

    The composition and toning really tells the melancholy story of a lost summer. Nicely seen and executed.

  • Members 164 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 8:47 p.m.

    Doorway Of Hopes And Dreams

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    PENTAX K-3 Mark III Monochrome : 27mm : 200 ISO : F7.1 : 1/125 sec : 0 EV

  • Members 146 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 8:49 p.m.

    An evening on foot in Portland Maine.

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    This particular scene caught my eye as, being in a busy area with a significant shortage of parking spots and an overabundance of cars looking for them, there weren't any to found here, just a lone figure on foot. Originally conceived in color but, being on a bit of a B&W kick of late, I thought it sported the requisite tonality for decent monochrome go as well..

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  • Members 757 posts
    Feb. 9, 2025, 9:25 p.m.

    Erik,

    Black and White suits that scene well.

    You did good.

    Steve Thomas

  • Members 1746 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 12:32 a.m.

    I always have to try iconic landscapes in black and white to see what happens. I took this shot of Mt Moran reflected in Oxbow Bend a decade ago. Lucky to be in Grand Teton when there was a full moon. Sometimes I "see" it in black and white before I start fiddling with settings for the photo, but sometimes I get enamored with the colors (Teton is amazing in fall color) and only discover the black and white later, which is what happened with this one.

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  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 4:44 a.m.

    Everywhere in Japan I saw kids with old film cameras over their shoulders. I don't recall once seeing one taking a photo. I have a theory that they're a fashion accessory, not a sign of a film revival.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 4:56 a.m.

    This relates to a personal preference so it shouldn't be taken as a negative comment.
    I like looking at old photos but modern photos that are processed to look like old photos aren't my cup of tea. I'm the same with cameras. Old cameras- fine. Digital cameras that try to look "retro", again not my cuppa.
    All of which makes it hard to explain why I like B&W.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 7:51 a.m.

    A shot that grabs attention. The composition is bold with the main objects suspended from the top of the frame. There's plenty of contrast so they stand out. Then there's the "What are we looking at"? factor.
    B&W brings up the points and the varying textures and transparency of the ice.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 8:01 a.m.

    I'm unsure about how to discuss these. As individual shots or as a series? There are too many for individual discussion. You have about two month's worth of posts here.
    Some might be part of the same performance, others, maybe not so I don't know how to approach them as a series either. If they are a series, I think the style should be consistent. The third and final shots don't look to belong with the others.
    Re the multi images I'd guess strobe lighting or stage lights flashing.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 8:16 a.m.

    joman's title is important on this shot. It adds layers of meaning to the doorway.
    We need to see the image larger. Something is written behind the doorhandle but I can't read it. It feels like it might be significant as we interpret the door and the opportunities.
    I don't get too fussed by vertical/horizontal accuracy but in this shot horizontals dip to the left is unsettling. If the angle was increased another, say, ten degrees, the question posed by the title would have gained another dimension.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 8:56 a.m.

    Yes, I think it has the tonality for B&W.
    The figure on the left entering the exit only got my attention. What is he doing going ? The photo show a longish empty walk in front of him. No one else is around.
    Consider givibf a bit more attention to him by cropping off some of the dark area to the left of the lit Exit entrance.

  • Members 1649 posts
    Feb. 10, 2025, 10:07 a.m.

    minniev, I know you will know this image.
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    Clouds and a moon like this are heaven sent for photographers. It might have been tempting to increase the blacks to something like the Adams level and I'm glad you didn't. It remains your vision and your image with a delicacy to the reflections in the water rather than the starkness of the Adams' scene.
    one point, and I'm not sure about this. the clouds look as though they have received additional burning in pp. In a few areas it looks a little heavy?
    It's still glorious.