• April 18, 2024, 5:03 p.m.

    This is the problem with real good content - many people (including me) enjoy it, but no one has expertise or enough experience to comment on them :)

  • Members 166 posts
    April 18, 2024, 5:37 p.m.

    For me, indifference in threads like this is the result of seeing that DonaldB's convictions on this topic have never been changed by anything posted by anyone.

  • Members 3613 posts
    April 18, 2024, 6:16 p.m.

    You seem to be forgetting the undeniable fact that all jpegs from digital cameras are originally raw data.

    Raw data can be processed to look like just about anything you like and then output it as a jpeg.

    In my experience the size of the sensor's pixels is not the main driver behind the quality of the color graduations you refer to.

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 18, 2024, 8:45 p.m.

    can you not see the beautiful level of colour in the images i posted on my calibrated 4k monitor the upscaled image is first class , 🤔im now doubting that the 8meg following canon cameras are actually 8 meg the d30 upscaled images are that good. 😎 actually they are better than the following cameras.
    Im sure that camera manufactureing companies have people just like yourself that post on forums and brainwash prospective buyers into thinking that more is better, that less pixels are not, but your not going to sway me one bit as i have studied electronics in my past and understand the ground routes of the simple electronic device thats just reproduced 32 million times 😁

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 18, 2024, 9:01 p.m.

    hey danno go to your local jcar electronic store and buy a photodiode then go to the local 4wd shop and buy a soloar panel ,connect a multi meter to both and watch the sun rise and tell me which device starts detecting photons first 🤪

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 18, 2024, 9:04 p.m.

    😂 looks pretty basic to me 😊

  • Members 273 posts
    April 18, 2024, 9:13 p.m.

    Is the photodiode the same size as the solar panel? Because, if so and if the solar panel wins, that means its smaller sensors put together beat the much larger sensor.

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 18, 2024, 9:17 p.m.

    hey leejay you have just solved the world energy crisis, we all need to install the fuji gfx100meg sensor on our roofs 🫣it has 100 million solar panels 😇more is better right 🙄

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 18, 2024, 9:30 p.m.

    your not listerning, i havent once mentioned detail, im a portrait shooter and color (expecially shadowed skin tones that can be accurately recovered) is my ultimate objective (pun). big pixels are better period.

  • Members 3613 posts
    April 18, 2024, 9:45 p.m.

    If bigger pixels is better for you, that's fine.

    In my experience the sensor pixel size is not the main driver behind the quality of the color graduations you refer to.

    Anyone interested can do their own testing and come to their own conclusions like you did.

  • Members 1539 posts
    April 18, 2024, 10:42 p.m.

    Turning a deaf ear is the specialty of many people, the important thing for the vast majority is to be right.
    In the long run, it gets really annoying.

    My latest comparison between two Canon Rebels, 6MP and 18MP.

    live.staticflickr.com/65535/53647805162_5cc50d4bb1_h.jpg
    Canon EOS-300D (2003) 100% / Canon EOS Kiss X7 (2013) 65% Prorata
    by Marc Aubry, sur Flickr

    Canon EOS-300D (2003) / Canon EOS Kiss X7 (2013)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720316167476/
    6MP / 18MP

    etc …

    Kodak DCS 200 (1992) / Fujifilm X-T5 (2022)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720304141226
    30 years apart 1.5MP / 40MP

    Canon EOS-1Ds (2002) / Fujifilm X-T5 (2022)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72177720304918247
    20 years apart 11MP/40 MP

    Nikon D100 (2002) / Nikon D500 (2016)
    www.flickr.com/photos/maoby/albums/72157691935795584
    Nikon DX 6.3MP / 20.9MP

  • Members 3613 posts
    April 18, 2024, 10:52 p.m.

    DonaldB is entitled to his opinion just like anyone else.

    Where he is struggling is coping with the fact that his opinions are not enforceable onto everyone else.

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 18, 2024, 11:28 p.m.

    but what i noticed is the massive step backward from the d30 to the 20d in the kodak gradiant scale.

  • Members 166 posts
    April 19, 2024, 12:13 a.m.

    Sure, people are 'entitled' to believe anything they want to believe, even if it's false. It happens constantly. That's why it's sensible to adopt a reaction of indifference to these repeating threads that showcase opposing beliefs about pixel size. The attempts to accomplish change simply fail, time after time.

  • Members 1539 posts
    April 19, 2024, 12:36 a.m.

    I own both, but I've never compared them.
    But, indeed, I've sometimes preferred the results of the oldest camera for different reasons.
    After more than 310 comparisons, I haven't found a definitive answer yet, for the simple reason that some of the results contradict each other.

    As A is better than B, and B is better than C, but C seems better than A! 😱

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 19, 2024, 12:51 a.m.

    ive just printed an A4 from my new pro 200 and the image quallity is beautiful from the d30. i want one, but none for sale here in AUS 😒

  • Members 2292 posts
    April 19, 2024, 12:54 a.m.

    what amazes me as well is photographers are just as blind as musos are deaf 🫣 ive been learning a new song on my new guitar and 2 cords just sounded not quite right, ive spent 2 days looking at all the cord progressions form 20 different people and i was still not happy, but then this morning i have finally nailed the correct cords 😁 never say never if you dont post anything and listern to everyone else your bound to come unstuck, just ask Jim K hows his 10x macro is going with MF 😂 its how i got my perm moderation 🤨 its the same with there extreme macro setups. they all copy each other and they are all wrong, there systems are useless and defy all lodgic, but hey they all think they know better, i just posted my setup to a mod getting into exteme macro, but havnt had a response back, probally because its game changing and very well designed and he doesnt want to start from scratch.

  • Members 3613 posts
    April 19, 2024, 2:04 a.m.

    All of that is just your opinions.