I do not remember why I had this shutter speed. But the point is that at this setting camera requested this ISO since there was not enough light to hit a sensor. to produce image of this brightness at lower ISO.
I do not remember why I had this shutter speed. But the point is that at this setting camera requested this ISO since there was not enough light to hit a sensor. to produce image of this brightness at lower ISO.
@AlexeyK77 has written: @sagittarius has written:Do you consider this image unusable?
Image is good for me, but scene has good light, and thats more important than high ISO. And I used software to get rid of the noise.
I never shoot Nikon, but if I am shoot this scene with my sony APSC I prefer to choose 1\25 and ISO 3200I do not remember why I had this shutter speed. But the point is that at this setting camera requested this ISO since there was not enough light to hit a sensor. to produce image of this brightness at lower ISO.
Were you shooting for SOOC JPEG images?
@sagittarius has written: @AlexeyK77 has written: @sagittarius has written:Do you consider this image unusable?
Image is good for me, but scene has good light, and thats more important than high ISO. And I used software to get rid of the noise.
I never shoot Nikon, but if I am shoot this scene with my sony APSC I prefer to choose 1\25 and ISO 3200I do not remember why I had this shutter speed. But the point is that at this setting camera requested this ISO since there was not enough light to hit a sensor. to produce image of this brightness at lower ISO.
Were you shooting for SOOC JPEG images?
No, I shoot 99.9% RAW.
@JimKasson has written: @sagittarius has written: @AlexeyK77 has written: @sagittarius has written:Do you consider this image unusable?
Image is good for me, but scene has good light, and thats more important than high ISO. And I used software to get rid of the noise.
I never shoot Nikon, but if I am shoot this scene with my sony APSC I prefer to choose 1\25 and ISO 3200I do not remember why I had this shutter speed. But the point is that at this setting camera requested this ISO since there was not enough light to hit a sensor. to produce image of this brightness at lower ISO.
Were you shooting for SOOC JPEG images?
No, I shoot 99.9% RAW.
Then the camera doesn't know what the brightness of the image will be.
Auto-ISO setting typically has two components: minimum shutter speed and maximum ISO value.
I do not understand the point of having an upper ISO limit lower than the maximum ISO value.
In A mode, hitting the upper limit will cause the shutter speed to fall below the safe value, causing blurred images. In M mode, hitting the upper limit will cause the EVF to become too dark, making framing and focusing hard.
Some people who are using cameras where analog or digital gain are used up to the highest ISOs would rather have a little more read noise but much more highlights in the ISO settings.
It can also remind you how weak your exposures are, when you see dark review images or dark "exposure simulation". Noise isn't always obvious on an LCD or in an EVF if you don't zoom in.
You can use this to switch to "mostly flash" above a certain ISO, by using flash fill, which will become a greater percentage of the total exposure as the ambient starts to drop, but the FEC is still trying to work off of the ISO setting.
Those are some possible reasons off the top of my head.
Some people using Av would rather have a risk of motion blur rather than noise beyond a certain level.
@sagittarius has written: @JimKasson has written: @sagittarius has written: @AlexeyK77 has written: @sagittarius has written:Do you consider this image unusable?
Image is good for me, but scene has good light, and thats more important than high ISO. And I used software to get rid of the noise.
I never shoot Nikon, but if I am shoot this scene with my sony APSC I prefer to choose 1\25 and ISO 3200I do not remember why I had this shutter speed. But the point is that at this setting camera requested this ISO since there was not enough light to hit a sensor. to produce image of this brightness at lower ISO.
Were you shooting for SOOC JPEG images?
No, I shoot 99.9% RAW.
Then the camera doesn't know what the brightness of the image will be.
In this case what I see on the rear LCD? And then I see the same when I transfer images to the computer and open them in LrC?
It can also remind you how weak your exposures are, when you see dark review images or dark "exposure simulation". Noise isn't always obvious on an LCD or in an EVF if you don't zoom in.
Hear, hear.
To prevent the camera from producing extremely noisy images that not even the latest software options can handle. My simple D7500 produces more than OK images at ISO 32,000, while my Nikon 1 V1 is best when stopped at around ISO 3,200.
@JimKasson has written: @SrMi has written:I do not understand the point of having an upper ISO limit lower than the maximum ISO value.
Headroom. Use EC with A mode.
Why would headroom be important at an upper limit only (e.g, ISO 6400), and not below?
Sometimes the darker environments are ones where the lights are in the scene and there are no white walls around to diffuse light, and such environments need more headroom, especially if the lights are colored and would blow out to white. Imagine someone sitting outside a café at night, with neon lights in the background, and specular glare on the curves of their face. How do you get the SNR that you want in their face without blowing highlights?
@JimKasson has written: @sagittarius has written: @JimKasson has written:Were you shooting for SOOC JPEG images?
No, I shoot 99.9% RAW.
Then the camera doesn't know what the brightness of the image will be.
In this case what I see on the rear LCD? And then I see the same when I transfer images to the computer and open them in LrC?
True enough. But is that important, assuming you can see well enough to frame and focus?
@sagittarius has written: @JimKasson has written: @sagittarius has written: @JimKasson has written:Were you shooting for SOOC JPEG images?
No, I shoot 99.9% RAW.
Then the camera doesn't know what the brightness of the image will be.
In this case what I see on the rear LCD? And then I see the same when I transfer images to the computer and open them in LrC?
True enough. But is that important, assuming you can see well enough to frame and focus?
Better then to see just a black blob or close to it. Would it be better if I take a dark image at lesser ISO and increase brightness in PP?
Would it be better if I take a dark image at lesser ISO and increase brightness in PP?
I often do that. It gives me more freedom to control the highlights, and no more visible read noise, if done right.
@SrMi has written: @JimKasson has written: @SrMi has written:I do not understand the point of having an upper ISO limit lower than the maximum ISO value.
Headroom. Use EC with A mode.
Why would headroom be important at an upper limit only (e.g, ISO 6400), and not below?
Sometimes the darker environments are ones where the lights are in the scene and there are no white walls around to diffuse light, and such environments need more headroom, especially if the lights are colored and would blow out to white. Imagine someone sitting outside a café at night, with neon lights in the background, and specular glare on the curves of their face. How do you get the SNR that you want in their face without blowing highlights?
I think either fully manual control of ISO or applying EC manually in Auto ISO is a better choice to control highlight headroom than hoping that an arbitrary Auto-ISO upper limit will start protecting highlights when required.
To prevent the camera from producing extremely noisy images that not even the latest software options can handle. My simple D7500 produces more than OK images at ISO 32,000, while my Nikon 1 V1 is best when stopped at around ISO 3,200.
Setting an ISO constraint will not stop the increase in noise.
Tell me more!
Tell me more!
www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/RN_e.htm#Nikon%20D7500_14
The D7500 read noise vs ISO curve nearly monotonically decreases. There is never a point where turning up the ISO causes more noise if exposure is held constant.
@JohnSheehyRev has written: @SrMi has written: @JimKasson has written: @SrMi has written:I do not understand the point of having an upper ISO limit lower than the maximum ISO value.
Headroom. Use EC with A mode.
Why would headroom be important at an upper limit only (e.g, ISO 6400), and not below?
Sometimes the darker environments are ones where the lights are in the scene and there are no white walls around to diffuse light, and such environments need more headroom, especially if the lights are colored and would blow out to white. Imagine someone sitting outside a café at night, with neon lights in the background, and specular glare on the curves of their face. How do you get the SNR that you want in their face without blowing highlights?
I think either fully manual control of ISO or applying EC manually in Auto ISO is a better choice to control highlight headroom than hoping that an arbitrary Auto-ISO upper limit will start protecting highlights when required.
Perhaps, but you asked why people do something, and I gave some reasons why they might do it, within the context of their habits and logic.
The D7500 read noise vs ISO curve nearly monotonically decreases. There is never a point where turning up the ISO causes more noise if exposure is held constant.
Thank you for remembering that qualifying statement, "if exposure is held constant". Some are not qualifying, and that only causes confusion.
Most beginners are NOT shooting in M mode, and when they hear "turning up the ISO", they are thinking of what happens in those modes where the exposure time and/or the f-number are automated.